Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site ssc-vax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!tektronix!uw-beaver!ssc-vax!sts From: sts@ssc-vax.UUCP (Stanley T Shebs) Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Re: Irrational Bases Message-ID: <419@ssc-vax.UUCP> Date: Tue, 16-Aug-83 16:24:58 EDT Article-I.D.: ssc-vax.419 Posted: Tue Aug 16 16:24:58 1983 Date-Received: Wed, 17-Aug-83 20:45:58 EDT References: umcp-cs.1857, <931@ittvax.UUCP> Organization: Boeing Aerospace, Seattle Lines: 23 Heh-heh. Alan is perfectly right. We talk about rationality a lot, and ignore the fact that most intelligent human behavior is not really rational in nature. What *is* the reason for selecting rational behavior as the norm? For that matter, is there a criterion for rational behavior, and if so, how is it arrived at? Surely not by rational thought, since you can't use it before you've defined it! (Aside: when Prolog programmers are asked why they use Prolog, after giving the usual arguments and having them struck down, they wind up by saying "I just *like* logic". Seems irrational to me) After thinking about Tom Craver's, Laura Creighton's, and Tim Maroney's submissions, I discovered that they all had something interesting in common: expression of the belief that a proper definition of rights and freedoms somehow automagically excludes conflicts. Thelema says the same thing by talking about Will and how the Wills of different persons can never conflict, by definition. Perhaps I'm missing something, but it all seems pretty mystical to me... stan the leprechaun hacker ssc-vax!sts (soon utah-cs)