Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site umcp-cs.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!seismo!rlgvax!cvl!umcp-cs!liz From: liz@umcp-cs.UUCP Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Re: why demand axiomatic moral standards? Message-ID: <2087@umcp-cs.UUCP> Date: Tue, 23-Aug-83 00:33:46 EDT Article-I.D.: umcp-cs.2087 Posted: Tue Aug 23 00:33:46 1983 Date-Received: Wed, 24-Aug-83 02:34:08 EDT References: <1265@tekgds.UUCP> Organization: Univ. of Maryland, Computer Science Dept. Lines: 28 I'd just like to comment on something Charles Perkins said about Christianity -- that Christians are not altruists since their goal is salvation. This isn't true. Salvation is a free gift which is obtained when a person becomes a Christian. There is no need to work for it. (This doesn't mean that we don't try to do what's right -- on the contrary, our response of obedience to God is out of love for Him which comes from knowing His love for us and what He's done for us. It's really all Him saving us. Good works are not required for salvation but are a natural by-product (if you will) of faith in God.) Actually, Christians should be altruists (at least) in the sense that Paul Torek has been using the word. The command "Love your neighbor as yourself" implies considering other people's needs as important as your own. Also, "Each of you should look not only to your own interests, but also to the interests of others." (Eph 2:4) shows that we should be considerate of others while at the same time not totally neglecting of our own needs. Why, philosophically, should Christians love? Simply because God has loved us in spite of ourselves. Saying that someone is not worthy of love is saying somehow that they are not as good as you are. But that is a judgement that you cannot make knowing that you're really no different from them... -- -Liz Allen, U of Maryland, College Park MD Usenet: ...!seismo!umcp-cs!liz Arpanet: liz.umcp-cs@Udel-Relay