Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site utcsstat.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsrgv!utcsstat!laura From: laura@utcsstat.UUCP (Laura Creighton) Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Re: mixing and holding values Message-ID: <948@utcsstat.UUCP> Date: Thu, 25-Aug-83 09:10:23 EDT Article-I.D.: utcsstat.948 Posted: Thu Aug 25 09:10:23 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 26-Aug-83 08:09:22 EDT References: <407@houti.UUCP> Organization: U. of Toronto, Canada Lines: 45 May i interject something here? Tom Craver, can I attempt to paraphrase your beliefs? Feel free to make ammends if I have distorted them and left out important parts. 1. Humans, by definition, have the ability to be t-rational. 2. It is much better to be t-rational than not to be. 3. All apparant conflicts in life as one tries to be t-rational are a result of: a) Not understanding t-rationality properly. b) Dealing with jerks who do not understand or refuse to accept t-rationality. c) Not having all the relavant information (is being unaware of this lack necessary? I have been unable to acertain this from your articles -- Laura) d) calamities and natural disaster which are not very likely to happen (and could be prevented by a rational person that was prepared? Again I am not sure -- Laura) 4. therefore, the 'ideal human' should always be striving to be more and more t-rational, where the ideal state is an entirely t-rational being. is this it? BIG QUESTION TIME: How do you know that t-rationality is a constant between all individuals? In other words, how do you know that what is t-rational for Tom Craver is also t-rational for Alan Wexelblatt, Paul Torek and Laura Creighton?? Sounds to me as if you will have a real problem if we all attain 'ideal t-rationality' and find that it is not the same t-rationality! We will all be perfectly correct and entirely in disagreement! If "by definition" you claim that t-rationality is constant between all individuals ( a reasonable way out) then I need to know what grounds you have for assuming this. I should think that t-rationality is related to intelligence, myself, something which I have observed NOT to be constant between all individuals. laura creighton utzoo!utcsstat!laura