Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site princeton.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!tektronix!uw-beaver!cornell!vax135!floyd!whuxlb!pyuxll!eisx!npoiv!npois!hogpc!houxm!hocda!spanky!burl!sb1!ll1!otuxa!we13!ihnp4!cbosgd!mhuxi!mhuxa!ulysses!princeton!mckay From: mckay@princeton.UUCP Newsgroups: net.poems Subject: more about drivel Message-ID: <256@princeton.UUCP> Date: Sat, 6-Aug-83 13:32:21 EDT Article-I.D.: princeto.256 Posted: Sat Aug 6 13:32:21 1983 Date-Received: Tue, 9-Aug-83 11:32:27 EDT Organization: Princeton University Lines: 36 Well, well. After the long discussions slamming the usual contributions as "drivel", I notice the volume of original contributions has dropped drastically. As a matter of fact, my last few "readnews -n net.poems" have yielded silence. Which is better, drivel or silence? Personally, I vote for drivel. As has been mentioned before by numerous netlanders on countless subjects, drivel can easily be transformed into silence by judicious use of your "n" key. To facilitate this, I shall start submitting to this newsgroup again, but I shall put "by M.V.Taylor" in the subject so the lack of quality in my work need not offend anyone. Yes, I admit it, I was one of the first scared off this group by the criticism. But it's time we heard from the other side of the debate. I have great tolerance for drivel. (Probably the fact that I produce so much has something to do with this.) I even *gasp* find it interesting, often downright enjoyable. I do not read original submissions on this group expecting to discover a new Wordsworth or Robert Frost. If I do, I consider myself *extremely* lucky because in this day and age, that person will almost certainly never be published, and this may be my only chance to enjoy their work. What I read the "normal drivel" for is a chance to get to know something personal and interesting about the author. Even poetry which is "drivel" has much more content in terms of personal emotion, belief, and the like, than many newsgroups. Since I find people fascinating, I enjoy reading their poetry and feel honored to be invited into their confidence in this way. It was only two years ago that I finally consented to let anyone at all read any of my poetry ("and what a shame that you did", I hear the critics say) because so much of it has special personal meaning for me. I do not write poems to become a famous poet. I write poems to express myself, and I have reason to believe that occasionally, I express something someone else has also felt or experienced. This may not be good poetry, but I maintain it is also not valueless. From the tattered poetry collection and bizarre brain of Mary V. Taylor (ulysses,allegra)!princeton!mckay