Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site allegra.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!gummo!whuxlb!pyuxll!eisx!npoiv!npois!hogpc!houxm!hocda!spanky!burl!sb1!ll1!otuxa!we13!ihnp4!cbosgd!mhuxi!mhuxt!eagle!allegra!don From: don@allegra.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Fascism vs. Communism Message-ID: <1730@allegra.UUCP> Date: Tue, 9-Aug-83 21:56:15 EDT Article-I.D.: allegra.1730 Posted: Tue Aug 9 21:56:15 1983 Date-Received: Thu, 11-Aug-83 17:07:34 EDT Organization: Bell Labs, Murray Hill Lines: 29 Subject: Fascism vs. Communism If you want to get political, why fool around? Arguments about Republicans vs. Democrats are pretty tame by any sort of global political standard. How do people feel about these two extreme, but highly influential views? Generally, one sees these systems explained only by people who are wildly opposed to one or both; therefore, I will try to be advocative. FASCISM: The world contains a few productive people like financiers and industrialists who really make things move. Everyone else (the working class) are just parasites living off the productivity of superior people. Eventually, non-productive people use the mechanism of democracy to force Capitalists to do things that aren't in their own pure self interest (eg. regulated economy). Just the productive people should run things so that cannot happen. (Note that the last sentence makes the real difference between a fascist and someone who is just "pretty rightwing".) MARXISM: Hundreds of years ago, craftsmen did their own work and sold their own goods. When mass production was invented, many people worked, but only a few (those who put up initial capital) got to keep the profits. A handful of people became rich by employing the labor power of many people and not paying those people for the real value of their work. The Capitalists are unnecessary. They use tainted money to make more tainted money. Workers should use their labor power solely to improve their own standard of living. It may be necesary to use force to unseat the Capitalists from their position of power.