Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!microsoft!uw-beaver!tektronix!tekecs!danc From: danc@tekecs.UUCP (Daniel Cobb) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Dave Holt Good and Bad Message-ID: <1996@tekecs.UUCP> Date: Wed, 31-Aug-83 20:03:51 EDT Article-I.D.: tekecs.1996 Posted: Wed Aug 31 20:03:51 1983 Date-Received: Thu, 1-Sep-83 19:34:25 EDT Lines: 44 I'm being sucked into this net again. Bravo, David for an interesting story/comment on life in the Soviet Union. Now ready yourself for the barrage of disagreement and personnal attack that will come/is coming from contributors to this net who throw diplomacy, manners, and respect to the wind. By the way, the validity of your opinion is detracted from by your spelling errors, and they will attack that too. I dont completely agree with all of your observations, they seem to be somewhat shallow, but I think they are generally on track. I am not a self-proclaimed authority. The obvious reason that we support Marcos, even though he is obviously corrupt as hell and rapidly losing popularity with his own people, is that the US Navy has a mammoth base there that we simply cannot afford to lose. The flip side of that coin is that the longer we support Marcos, the more likely we are to lose those bases when Marcos is forced out of power by revolution or a coup. To immediately withdraw our support of Marcos would lead almost immediately to the loss of our Naval facilities there. It seems to me we should find a way to convince him that it is in his interests to improve significantly the human rights record in his country and address the urgent problems associated the high percentage of the population that is living in abject poverty, because it is there that the communists/Marxists find the fuel to feed their revolution (TAKEOVER), as they have already. Someone on the net responded to David by saying that perhaps the hardship his friend had faced in the Soviet Union was because he was a Jew, and perceived to be an "enemy of the State" as he put it. I ask what the hell difference does that make ??? Would that justify the actions of the Soviet govenment? To justify the actions of the ' Soviet Government in this way validates racism, forced labor camps, and murder as legitimate government policy. Another contributor criticized David's characterization of the takeover of Angola. Cubans that were armed by the Soviets perpetrated the Marxist takeover of Angola. This was not a peoples revolution, and it represents a loss for the people of that country. To claim otherwise is to promote gross distortion. So whats new. And now I'll run for cover as the nova of emotional liberalism reponds to this opinion and floods the net.