Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!tektronix!tekmdp!jonw From: jonw@tekmdp.UUCP (Jonathan White) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Re: The case against the Book of Mormon Message-ID: <2118@tekmdp.UUCP> Date: Mon, 8-Aug-83 16:23:41 EDT Article-I.D.: tekmdp.2118 Posted: Mon Aug 8 16:23:41 1983 Date-Received: Tue, 9-Aug-83 06:43:49 EDT Lines: 50 Dennis McCurdy has attempted to defend the good name of Joseph Smith, Jr. by attacking the truthfulness of the many affidavits that have been collected from Smith's former neighbors. Granted that the motive for obtaining these affidavits was not advance the cause of Mormonism, but the fact remains that a total of "some eighty neighbors" testified as to the poor moral character of the Smith family, whereas "THERE EXISTS NO CONTEMPORARY PRO-MORMON STATEMENTS FROM RELIABLE AND INFORMED SOURCES WHO KNEW THE SMITH FAMILY AND JOSEPH INTIMATELY." ("Kingdom of the Cults", by Walter R. Martin.) These affidavits (some of which contain descriptions of detailed personal encounters with the Smiths), along with other contemporary records (such as personal correspondence and court records), plus statements from the Smith family themselves, present a clear and consistent pattern. Speaking of court records, there seems to be an inconsistency in the information that Dennis presented. (I have made no attempt to flag errors in grammar or spelling.) Concerning the trial of N.Y. vs Joseph Smith there were actually two. The first trial came about when the Prohpet was accused by some local ministers of "disorderly conduct and preaching the Book of Mormon, and setting the country in an uproar." The charges were totally dismissed by the judge (Joseph Chamberlain J.P.) but other irrelevent charges sprang forth. These included using prophetic gifts (magic stones, etc.) for material gain. The judge dimissed the fabricated charges and the Prophet was set free. No sooner did this happen when he was arrested again by an officer from Coleville about 15 miles away. The charges were "being possesed of an evil spirit" (witch trials?) and "money digging". He was again brought to trial (#2) where he was found "NOT GUILTY" (!!). Walter R. Martin in his book "The Kingdom of the Cults" was in total error. How could Joseph be charged with "preaching the Book of Mormon" in trial #1 (which presumably occurred before trial #2 on March 20, 1826), months before Joseph even had the Golden Plates? They weren't even fully translated until 1829! As far as Dennis' assertion that Joseph was acquitted in trial #2, I am curious as to where Dennis got his information. William Wise, in his book "Massacre at Mountain Meadow", also mentions the same incident, and his account agrees with Martin. (By the way, "Massacre at Mountain Meadow" is a charming little story about how the Mormons, under the direction of Brigham Young, murdered the members of an entire wagon train -- 150 men, women, and children.) Jon White Tektronix Aloha, Ore