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From: rcj1@ihuxi.UUCP
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Subject: Various comments
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Date: Wed, 24-Aug-83 10:31:04 EDT
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 		In fact Paul is a Greek.  

Sorry, but Paul(Saul) is of Hebrew descent...

		If you take a random group of American Atheists and
		comapre their actions to a random group of American
		Christians I'll bet you see the same amount of crooks
		among the Christians as among the Athiests.  

Now a days many people claim to be Christians but are they really?
Do they practice what they preach? If not then they oughtn't lay
claim to the term "Christian". (myself included)

		Christianity cannot in fact be defined as a very good
		guiding principle since it is in fact subject to so wide
		an interpretation, as seen in the amount of schisms from
		the Orthodox Church (the original Christian Church) to
		Catholicism to Protestantism to Mormonism.  It has
		always in fact relied on the culture surrounding it to
		guide it's views of right and wrong.  Religions in
		general have always been willing to bend their laws to
		that of the government.  Examples are the removal of
		permissable bygamy in the Mormon church so Utah could
		become a state, the dispensations during wartime granted
		by the Jewish and Catholic religions on food i.e. Jewish
		soldiers were allowed to eat pork and Catholic soldiers
		were allowed to eat meat on Fridays.  

I agree that if you look at Christianity on the whole (i.e. Protestants,
Mormanism, Catholicism, etc) it would appear that nobody knows up
from down!!! However from a Biblical standpoint things begin to take
shape. I won't name religions but many rituals/rules practiced in todays
church's simply didn't exist in Jesus' time. Where did they come from?
Why can't church's simply follow the basic's of the New Testament,
rather then add things that never existed in the first place?
I feel much better attending a church that gets its 'rules'
from the Bible rather then from man...
(I can site specifics if you want but I'm sure you understand..)

    		I have always felt that Marxism (as proposed not as
		practiced) parallels Christianity.  The object of
		Marxism being that the individual give of himself, for
		the good of the whole, without thought of compensation
		other than what he needs.  This means that the Computer
		Programmer and the Janitor should be paid the same wage
		for what they do and in fact someone who can't work
		should be paid the same wage as well.  

Here I think your Marxism/Christianity idea stems from Scripture against
laying up treasures here on earth. Also giving all one has to the poor,
etc. The bible teaches that riches lead to problems. The rich
get greedy and want to become richer. Their money becomes their god.
(I notice this in many people that aren't rich!!!!)
I Tim 6:17-19 Warns the rich about leaving God out of their plans...
This is why it is preached against in the Bible. 
My opinion is that as long as we don't loose sight of our maker, don't let
money rule our lives, be generous and compassionate to the less fortunate
you can be rich (monetarily)  and a Christian at the same time...


>> as i recall (having looked them up some years ago (in a KJV bible)), one of
>> the commandments proscribes working on a sunday.  what would the world
>> be like if firemen, pharmacists, meteorologists, doctors, power-, water-,
>> gas- and telephone-workers, lifeguards and newscasters (ie for emergency
>> announcements) did not work on sundays?

The Pharisees asked Jesus: Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath? so that they
might accuse him. He said to them, "What man of you, if he has one sheep
and it falls into a pit on the sabbath will not lay hold of it and lift
it out? Of how much more value is a man then a sheep? So it is lawful to
do good on the sabbath."
He didn't say its ok to just heal on the sabbath, but "to do good on the
sabbath."

I believe that in certain instances God understands we have to work at
the factory on Sunday. However, if we don't have to but do, He realizes
this also...

		Someone asked about a woman coveting her neighbors
		husband being ok??

Come on now, lets use some common sense here. 

Now I have a question.

Would Jesus turn water into wine (as we know wine today.)????
Think about it first...

			Ray 

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