Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!seismo!hao!hplabs!sri-unix!AXLER@Upenn-1100 From: AXLER@Upenn-1100@sri-unix.UUCP Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Subject: Worldcon Comments Message-ID: <4031@sri-arpa.UUCP> Date: Mon, 8-Aug-83 15:40:12 EDT Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.4031 Posted: Mon Aug 8 15:40:12 1983 Date-Received: Thu, 11-Aug-83 02:25:06 EDT Lines: 28 From: AXLER@Upenn-1100 (David M. Axler - MSCF Applications Mgr.) You're probably right about the '36 trip, though in general I'd trust Warner over Moskowitz for faanish history. Is Philly dull? Or, is it just PhilCon? It's unfair to judge either on the basis of the other. But I'd agree with your (implicit) point that, if the PSFS puts on a convention that doesn't interest you, then the city may be a dull place for fans. You comment on the number of US fans who went to SeaCon, but ignore sever- al key factors: 1) The very number of convention-attending fans in the US made package tours to SeaCon possible; do you really think that this would be equally possible for the fans of Britain or France, for instance? 2) The relative income levels of fans here and abroad, esp. when you also take into account the dollar-to-foreign-currency conversions. 3) How many Americans went to HeiCon -- the single example of a WorldCon that was held in a non-English-speaking country? Another factor contributing to some extent to what you term parochialism is the changes in airline rates. The discounts we see here, especially on trips to Europe, are not always equally available on the other side. As you say, there has "been damned little bidding for the Worldcon from nEsl's", but you're not dealing with the whys and wherefores of this fact. Is the nature of Esl fandom sufficiently different from that in nEsl countries to make the two incompatible? Is the overall size of Esl fandom (or even just US [+Canadian?] fandom so great that nEsl sites feel that they have no chance to win a bid? I dunno, but I suspect that there are a lot of factors that are affecting this matter. --Dave Axler