Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site ssc-vax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!microsoft!uw-beaver!ssc-vax!sts From: sts@ssc-vax.UUCP (Stanley T Shebs) Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Subject: re: how can I fix my anti-grav aircar? Message-ID: <404@ssc-vax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 11-Aug-83 14:58:09 EDT Article-I.D.: ssc-vax.404 Posted: Thu Aug 11 14:58:09 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 12-Aug-83 15:29:24 EDT References: <4021@sri-arpa.UUCP> Organization: Boeing Aerospace, Seattle Lines: 35 User interfaces are fine, but I think the original question was about the overall reliability of a highly technological society. Our society is less inherently reliable than it was a century or two centuries ago, and this has become more obvious in the past several years. Consider: although one does not need to know the internal workings of an FM radio to use it, how many people can fix it using only raw materials? If you have replacement capacitors and ICs, it requires only a moderate amount of specialized knowledge, but suppose the radio is old and the parts are no longer available. This has already happened to me once with my personal computer. I had used a fairly obscure memory chip on one board, and, well, one of them failed. Guess what? The part was no longer available. Rather than try to find a supplier, I ended up redesigning part of the board. Now I wonder about those people with 8008's in their products. The situation now is that it is often cheaper to replace black boxes than to repair them, and now many of those black boxes are *designed* to be replaced. Most are not repairable. A highly technological society depends on a massive infrastructure, which in turn depends on the high availability of resources. This infrastructure has become more and more necessary to supply replacement parts, and it is rather fragile. Any kind of extended disaster could cause a massive breakdown (imagine us running completely out of oil *now*. Could everything be kept running long enough to develop alternate energy sources? Can't research solar cells if your lab equipment breaks down and can't be repaired). I'm reminded (sorry to carry on so long) of my grandmother's home town in the middle of Utah. It is basically self-contained, in the sense that anything breaking down can be fixed by someone in town. Scrap metal is saved, and I have seen some real artists fashioning replacement parts from it. Needless to say, they are suspicious of things like computer controls in cars. stan the leprechaun hacker ssc-vax!sts (soon utah-cs)