Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site dciem.UUCP Path: utzoo!dciem!ntt From: ntt@dciem.UUCP (Mark Brader) Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Subject: Re: numbering alternate universes Message-ID: <324@dciem.UUCP> Date: Thu, 25-Aug-83 18:01:52 EDT Article-I.D.: dciem.324 Posted: Thu Aug 25 18:01:52 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 26-Aug-83 11:15:20 EDT References: <4486@sri-arpa.UUCP> Organization: NTT Systems Inc., Toronto, Canada Lines: 44 Jon McCombie writes: A friend of mine, Mike Davis, proposes the following method of numbering multiple universes. I submit it for our collective consideration. "At virtually every point in time, some event is occurring which can be represented as a binary decision. Every time such a decision is made, new universes are made, one for each possible outcome of the decision. .... "Each universe, then, can be described by the unique bit stream which describes the yes/no decisions which went into making the universe." Unfortunately, that makes for universe whose descriptive numbers are infinitely long. Then again, this is a necessity in this description, in which there are an infinite number of alternate universes. You cannot assume that all decisions are binary. The various constants of nature had to be chosen (by God, or whomever), for instance, and they are in general irrational numbers. The entire irrational number would have to be included in the universe-description, but that requires an infinite number of bits, so you can never get to the part that represents the next decision. (This result is related to Cantor's theorem that shows the real numbers, and hence the irrationals, to be more numerous than the rationals. If anybody didn't know that theorem and is interested, consult math books at about the first-year-university level or better yet read Douglas Hofstadter's "Godel, Escher, Bach: an Eternal Golden Braid". Look under Cantor.) Perhaps it would be sufficient to "number" each universe with a FUNCTION mapping real numbers to real numbers; I believe these are more numerous than real numbers. But I would hate to define the mapping. Incidentally, a novel I found very good which is precisely concerned with parallel universes with differing constants of nature (specifically the constant describing the strength of the "strong nuclear force") is Isaac Asimov's "The Gods Themselves". According to his autobiography, he started it after hearing another writer (who wanted to make some example concrete) speak of plutonium-186; Asimov remarked to him, "You know there's no such isotope, but just to show you what a real SF writer can do, I'll write a story about plutonium-186." Mark Brader (M. Math), NTT Systems Inc., Toronto