Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!floyd!harpo!eagle!karn From: karn@eagle.UUCP (Phil Karn) Newsgroups: net.space Subject: Re: Electric rockets Message-ID: <1061@eagle.UUCP> Date: Sun, 7-Aug-83 16:53:05 EDT Article-I.D.: eagle.1061 Posted: Sun Aug 7 16:53:05 1983 Date-Received: Mon, 8-Aug-83 03:50:03 EDT References: sri-arpa.3870 Lines: 19 Speaking of electric rockets, AMSAT has come up with a similar rocket that could be used on a future payload launched from a GAS can on the shuttle. The problem here is that you want an engine to boost the payload into a longer lived orbit than 300 km, but to prove to the NASA people at the same time that it is intrinsically safe to fly on a manned vehicle. The proposal is to fly a steam rocket. Liquid water is directly preheated with solar energy and fed to a thrust chamber where an electrically powered heater turns it to steam. Specific impulse is terrible (~140 sec) but mass isn't a limitation; only a couple tens of kilograms of water would be required for the job. Of course it would be much easier and quicker to just carry two solid rocket motors to perform a two-impulse Hohmann transfer to the higher circular orbit, but just getting permission from NASA to deploy something from the GAS can will be a major accomplishment. Phil