Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site houxz.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!floyd!vax135!ariel!houti!hogpc!houxm!houxz!halle1 From: halle1@houxz.UUCP Newsgroups: net.taxes Subject: Re: lost nj rebate Message-ID: <481@houxz.UUCP> Date: Thu, 1-Sep-83 14:26:50 EDT Article-I.D.: houxz.481 Posted: Thu Sep 1 14:26:50 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 2-Sep-83 12:51:53 EDT References: <390@5941ux.UUCP> Organization: Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ Lines: 31 Re: NJers paying large amounts of taxes I moved to NJ from Virginia about a year ago. I am now paying LOWER net taxes. I think that you'll find that NJ is not so bad overall compared to the rest of the country, at least in states with similar demigography (I think that's the word). Examples: Income tax: NJ 2-2.5% VA:Graduated, top rate 5.75%, but with deductions and separate filing for marrieds possible. On $60K combined with 15K deductions (EG), NJ~1400, VA~2200. Sales tax: NJ 6% with various exclusions VA: 4% on (virtually) everything, including food and clothing. I don't remember the IRS table, but I estimate ~200 advantage to NJ. Excise tax: NJ slightly more on "sin tax" items, but MUCH less on gasoline. Northern VA even has a 4% sales tax on gas. Property Tax: NJ ~2.5% on real value VA ~1.5% Here's where VA wins. On equivalent housing, say $100K, NJ pays $1K more. However, equivalent housing costs more in equivalent parts of VA. Eg, 100K in NJ (except very close to NYC, and even there it should be compared to VA very close to DC where costs are more) won't touch anything in VA except out in the far boonies. You can't find anything over .25 acres in VA under 200K. So the difference is even smaller, perhaps 500 or less; possibly even less in NJ than VA. Other: VA has a personal property tax. This applies to things like autos, boats, workmans tools, etc. This is typically 4-5% of the book value of the cars. This adds on several hundred more dollars for the typical family. Also, utility taxes run 20-25% in VA vs 13.5% in NJ. In all I'm about $1000 better off in NJ vs VA. And VA is considered low in taxes. Services were not any better there. So quitchergripin. We in NJ pay a lot, but we are pretty well off relative to everyone else.