Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mit-eddie.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!mit-eddie!rh From: rh@mit-eddie.UUCP (Randy Haskins) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Net Language Use Message-ID: <581@mit-eddie.UUCP> Date: Thu, 11-Aug-83 15:11:41 EDT Article-I.D.: mit-eddi.581 Posted: Thu Aug 11 15:11:41 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 12-Aug-83 05:55:22 EDT References: <542@cvl.UUCP> Organization: MIT, Cambridge, MA Lines: 36 Okay, enough already. I have been using HE,HIM,HIS all my life when gender was not known. But I will try and repent. On the other hand, using IT offends me because IT is usually reserved for objects or even less-defined things. By using IT, you are objectifying people, which there is certainly too much of in the computer-hacker community (things like, so-and-so is broken, etc.). I don't like that. Here, however, in the age of rampant surveys, is what we will do: Send to me your nomination for a new personal pronoun to be "third person singular neuter personal" and IT will be "third person singular neuter impersonal." If the pronoun changes spelling for case, include all cases (objective, possessive, etc.) Here is a summary: Predicate nominative Objective Possessives I me my,mine you (sing) you your,yours he him his,his she her hers,hers -- mystery pronoun goes here -- it it its,its we us our,ours you (pl) you yours,yours y'all (provincial) y'all y'all's,y'all's (it does, however, avoid ambiguity) they them their,theirs So, mail me your favorite idea, and I'll compile and post the results, and maybe we can even vote on it. Then, maybe we can start using it a lot and get people around us to do this also. THIS IS NOT A :-) !!! We are going to influence language. Somebody has to do it. -- Randwulf (Randy Haskins); Path= genrad!mit-eddie!rh or... rh@mit-ee (via mit-mc)