Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utcsstat.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsrgv!utcsstat!laura From: laura@utcsstat.UUCP Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Genderfree terms in language. Message-ID: <887@utcsstat.UUCP> Date: Tue, 16-Aug-83 13:09:57 EDT Article-I.D.: utcsstat.887 Posted: Tue Aug 16 13:09:57 1983 Date-Received: Tue, 16-Aug-83 22:14:15 EDT References: <1967@utcsrgv.UUCP> Organization: U. of Toronto, Canada Lines: 33 i believe that i could make a case for the 'proof' that words such as 'nigger' and 'kike' promote discrimination. 'Nigger', for instance, was (and sadly still is) a word that was used by certain people who were (and some still are) opposed to the emancipation of Blacks, often as an invective, and had association and hence connotations with slavery. Clearly, not *everyone* used it for this purpose. Indeed, I have 2 friends, one of whom is Black and the other who is a White Jew. they routinely address each other as 'you cheap kike' and 'you nigger, you'. Since their relationship is, in part, based upon their mutual belief that the world is out to get them, this may even strengthen their relationship. This is not the point. 'Nigger' as it is commonly used in North Carolina (about the only area in the Southern US with which I have any familiarity) with the possible excpetion of Chapel Hill which is reputed to be very different from the rest of North Carolina, is obviously derrogatory, and is used to express hatred. Which brings us back to 'sexist language'. Most people who insist on using 'correct' English, are interested in using correct English. I see no evidence that they are interested in promoting hatred for women, or a belief in their inferiority, or slavery, or any of the numerous rotten things one can say that people who use 'Nigger' feel routinely for Blacks. the parellel drawn is thus very tenuous indeed. laura creighton utcsstat!laura ps to the curious. 7 people have sent me polite letters agreeing with me. 4 people have sent me polite letters disagreeing with me. 42 people have sent me hate mail...and $MAIL continues to grow.