Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utcsrgv.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsrgv!phyllis From: phyllis@utcsrgv.UUCP (Phyllis Eve Bregman) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Genderless Grammar Message-ID: <1976@utcsrgv.UUCP> Date: Tue, 16-Aug-83 14:00:27 EDT Article-I.D.: utcsrgv.1976 Posted: Tue Aug 16 14:00:27 1983 Date-Received: Tue, 16-Aug-83 22:15:19 EDT Organization: CSRG, University of Toronto Lines: 35 Whether Laura agrees with it or not, it is essential to incorporate genderless grammar into modern English usage. It takes time and patience, and the willingness of a population to do this. When I was a child growing-up in New York City, the term "Black" was never used to refer to a "Negro" person. Then came the integration riots of the 50's, JFK and Martin Luther King, Jr. in the 60's, and slowly the grammar we were all taught changed. There are still some older people, my mother on occasion, for one, who still have to think about it, but, it is my belief, that few people (except for the bigots in the South) who grew-up from 1950- would think to use the word "Negro". I object to being lumped together or excluded. I object strongly when I answer my officemates' phone (three males), and it is assumed that I am their secretary--the opposite NEVER occurs when they answer my phone! I object to the many letters I receive that begin "Dear Sir" or are addressed to "Mr. Phyllis Eve Bregman"! I object that it took a long time for my children to understand that women can be firefighters, policepersons and telephone repairpeople, to name a few. English is confusing enough, and, it seems to me, this one area could easily be unmuddled by insightful, clearthinking individuals. (And no, I am not going to change my name to "Bregperson"). Leaving the question of grammar and common usage aside for a moment, I think we have to look at our learned behavior and attitudes. I am no longer, for the most part, referred to as a Kike, and Blacks, for the most part, are no longer referred to as Negroes or Nigger. And there are other minority groups who are no longer referred to derogatorily. Why? Because these distasteful names are insulting, for one! Well, since women feel similarly, then common usage, learned behavior and attitudes MUST be changed, as they have been previously! It seems perfectly obvious to me and to most of my peers. -- Phyllis Eve Bregman CSRG, Univ. of Toronto {linus,ihnp4,uw-beaver,floyd,utzoo}!utcsrgv!phyllis