Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site ssc-vax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!eagle!mhuxt!mhuxi!mhuxa!houxm!hogpc!houti!ariel!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!ssc-vax!ginger From: ginger@ssc-vax.UUCP Newsgroups: net.women,net.news.group Subject: net.women.only Message-ID: <451@ssc-vax.UUCP> Date: Mon, 22-Aug-83 13:55:50 EDT Article-I.D.: ssc-vax.451 Posted: Mon Aug 22 13:55:50 1983 Date-Received: Tue, 23-Aug-83 09:08:35 EDT Organization: Boeing Aerospace, Seattle Lines: 34 "the forum is still not one in which I feel free to discuss some of the things I'd like to discuss, and I know I'm not alone in feeling this way." Here is my vote for net.women.only! There are many subjects of interest to women which the men who dominate this newsgroup would probably find silly, tiresome, or otherwise objectionable -so the subjects are never raised. Even "liberated" women get a bit in- timidated by articles from men with attitudes like this: -------------------------------------------------------- Conclusions: If it really makes a difference to you whether I say 'he', 'she', or 'it' in a generic context, then you're probably narrow-minded, bigoted, or insecure, in which case I probably wouldn't care about your opinion, or want your drivel using filespace on my machine. Go suck your thumb. -------------------------------------------------------- Perhaps, as someone suggested, many of the discussions common to net.women would be more appropriate in a "net.people". But I think we would still need a net.women.only. The purpose need not be to reject input from men, but simply to make it CLEAR that it is a forum by, for and about women -and that men who object to the content are welcome to restrict themselves to using all the rest of the net. PLEASE don't misunderstand us, guys! We *LIKE* you, but this is an issue that had bothered some of us women for quite a while, and (thanks to Liz) we finally found the nerve to mention it. Ginger Grover ssc-vax!ginger