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From: ntt@dciem.UUCP (Mark Brader)
Newsgroups: net.women,net.news.group
Subject: Re: net.women.only
Message-ID: <321@dciem.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 24-Aug-83 13:39:18 EDT
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Posted: Wed Aug 24 13:39:18 1983
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Organization: NTT Systems Inc., Toronto, Canada
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Liz Allen (...!seismo!umcp-cs!liz) writes, in part:


      As far as keeping men off is concerned:  I don't think there's any
      way to keep men from reading the group.  I would kind of like to
      keep men from submiting a lot of articles to the group, but even
      that would be difficult.

For "difficult", read "impossible".  The net is a very free country.


                                I would at least like to have a group
      where most of the articles were by women.
      As far as contents goes:  I don't think it would be any more personal
      than other news groups -- the net is far too public in nature for
      that.  It'd just be a place for women to discuss things and get
      feedback from other women without needing to justify the discussion
      or the existence of a problem.

So it's only valid to discuss whether the issues you discuss are real issues,
if the person doing so is a woman?  That's sexist.  I admit there are a lot
of unliberated men who will denounce good things, but I don't see that only
men will do so, nor that only good things will be denounced.  Even if what
you say you want was possible, I don't think it would work.
  (Of course, since I'm a man, I suppose I'm laying myself open to a charge
of denouncing a good thing by reason of being a man.  I think it's sexism
I'm denouncing.)


                                      Actually, a lot of it could well
      be boring for the men out there, anyway.  (When's the last time
      you men worried about makeup or monthly cramps?)  Partly, I'd just
      like to get to know some of the women out there and find out how
      they feel being a woman in such a male dominated profession -- what
      problems they have run into and how they have solved them.

I think net.women IS the place for these.  If I don't want to read about
monthly cramps, I can use the n key.  I AM interested in the last topic.


It would be nice to start a convention for net.women like the (spoiler)
convention of net.movies and others, and the (rot13) of net.jokes, where
senders identified their sex in the subject line.  However, the problem
(with all these, really) is that the "f" command tries to replicate the
subject, and women and men will naturally follow each other up (as here).


Mark Brader (not speaking for) NTT Systems Inc., Toronto