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From: pdl@root44.UUCP (Dave Lukes)
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Subject: Re: net.women.only
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Date: Mon, 29-Aug-83 17:51:12 EDT
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Posted: Mon Aug 29 17:51:12 1983
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An open reply to don stanwyck (..!ihnp4!ihuxr!stanwyck):

I doubt that many poles, blacks, hispanics, amer-asians women, etc. would
DARE shout `prejudice' at a male WASP for fear of being beaten-up, raped, etc.. 
Even in these enlightened times, racism and sexism still abound.

The reason why we need groups pushing for {blacks, foreigners, women ...}
is that there is still plenty of reason for their existence.

There is a group still around today which have as their aim the righting of 
(imagined) anti-white discrimination dating from the Civil War
(I hope I don't have to pollute the phone lines by mentioning their name).
And, before anyone accuses me of being a UK chauvinist, we has similar problems.
It is usually members of these sort of groups that go around shouting
``anti-white discrimination'' at the tops of their voices
(N.B. I'm not saying Don is in any way connected with such filth, just
that it makes me nervous when people start sounding off like that).
Notice also that the existence of white, male orientated groups IS
reason to be nervous, for the simple reason that they are likely to propogate
the sort of macho racism and sexism that we all (I hope) have come to hate.

Also, what's this about being `second class citizens of our society' ??
I've heard plenty of complaints of discrimination but WHITE MALES ???
Please cite a few specific examples, I'll be fascinated to hear about them.

			Dave Lukes (...!vax135!ukc!root44!pdl)

P.S. I'm white and happy with it, but often embarrassed by other whites.