Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ucbvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!tektronix!ucbcad!ucbvax!daemon From: daemon@ucbvax.UUCP Newsgroups: fa.editor-p Subject: Re: Learning Z vs Zmacs Message-ID: <938@ucbvax.UUCP> Date: Sun, 25-Sep-83 03:32:49 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.938 Posted: Sun Sep 25 03:32:49 1983 Date-Received: Tue, 27-Sep-83 04:11:39 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.UUCP Organization: U. C. Berkeley Computer Science Lines: 14 From JQJ@SU-SCORE.ARPA Sun Sep 25 00:32:28 1983 Date: 6 Sep 1983 0616-EDT From: RMS%MIT-OZ@MIT-MC The MIT system, which LMI uses, has several improvements relating to the editor. For example, Ztop and the Lisp (Edit) window really work, and provide all the session management facilities that Dyer describes. This just isn't true, except for a limited number of subsystems that can be run in any window. Z succeeds because all the subsystems that it is concerned with CAN be. However, I think part of the complaint was that so much of the Lisp Machine environment could not be unified by such an interface. I agree with the rest of what you say about Zmacs/Emacs vs Z.