Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ucbvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!floyd!whuxlb!pyuxll!eisx!npoiv!npois!hogpc!houxm!ihnp4!cbosgd!ucbvax!daemon From: daemon@ucbvax.UUCP Newsgroups: fa.info-vax Subject: Gripes about the VMS MAIL command Message-ID: <833@ucbvax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 15-Sep-83 07:13:39 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.833 Posted: Thu Sep 15 07:13:39 1983 Date-Received: Sat, 17-Sep-83 02:08:44 EDT Sender: daemon@ucbvax.UUCP Organization: U. C. Berkeley Computer Science Lines: 47 >From GEOFF5@SRI-CSL Thu Sep 15 04:13:26 1983 I have mixed feelings about the VMS MAIL command, and I would like to see if we can put together a consensus of opinions about it. Basically, I think the VMS MAIL subsystem is pretty decent, and if I had never used any other mail system, I think I would be pretty happy with it. As it is, however, I daily use a Unix system and a VMS system, and I do a lot of comparisons. The following suggestions are based on comparisons with the 'msg' mail reader which we got from BBN, and which I think developed from a TENEX program long ago. I would like to see the following features implemented in VMS MAIL: 1. A 'cc:' list to supplement to 'to:' list. This feature makes it easier to interface to administrative procedures. 2. The option to always get a 'cc:' of your outgoing mail to your own mailbox. 3. Retaining message numbers through a whole session; i.e. after you delete message number 1, the message after it should still be number 2, not number one. implemented). 4. Allowing message numbers in commands. It ought to be possible to clean up your mailbox by doing a DIR and then issue one or more delete commands: MAIL>DIR .... MAIL>DEL 1,2,4,6-9 MAIL> As it is, you have to issue a READ command for each message and then do a DEL while you have that message on the screen. 5. A documented interface that will allow you to hook the standard mailer to a non-decnet delivery system. (such as TCP/IP or TELENET TELEMAIL). I am sure that we can expand this wish list and then find a way to make these ideas known to the development group, either in DECUS sessions or by submitting a number of "suggestion" SPRs. Med venlig hilsen Lars Poulsen