Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site qubix.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!decwrl!qubix!steven From: steven@qubix.UUCP (Steven Maurer) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.flame Subject: Re: Socialism has never worked? Message-ID: <508@qubix.UUCP> Date: Fri, 16-Sep-83 12:46:50 EDT Article-I.D.: qubix.508 Posted: Fri Sep 16 12:46:50 1983 Date-Received: Sat, 17-Sep-83 19:10:18 EDT References: <2235@utcsrgv.UUCP> <377@dciem.UUCP> Organization: Qubix Graphic Systems, Saratoga, CA Lines: 23 I hate to break it to all you rabid "socialists", but just calling yourself "socialist", heardly means that you are one. Even Hitler called himself a socialist. So please don't bring up misleading examples of "socialist" governments that have existed -- you are mixing up terms. There are only governments run by parties calling themselves "socialist". Whether the government is democratic or not is a different issue, there are no real socialist countries. This is because the basic premise of socialism is untenible, except when every member of the group has an intense interest in making it work. Marrage is the only case of real socialism that exists in modern society (and even THAT "government" breaks down quite often). Perhaps the reason why "socialism" appeals to so many people is because it so resembles the social structure of tribal clans (an idealized version of course); socialism is sort of cultural back to the womb movement. Steven Maurer