Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!duke!unc!tim From: tim@unc.UUCP (Tim Maroney) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: drugs and criminals Message-ID: <5883@unc.UUCP> Date: Mon, 19-Sep-83 00:04:27 EDT Article-I.D.: unc.5883 Posted: Mon Sep 19 00:04:27 1983 Date-Received: Mon, 19-Sep-83 08:31:57 EDT References: uiucdcs.2844 Lines: 61 Here is a recent conversation on this group. Quotes are absolutely, literally verbatim from the originals. [First person] I suppose that I might support legalizing and taxing marijuana, however it is difficult to decide what happens next. Two of my very best friends were killed by drug traders after they 'stepped up' to cocaine. Their offence: not recruiting more customers. I'm sure that their parents and myself will never feel too secure about this issue. [Second person] But the only reason that scum like this sell drugs is that the drugs are illegal. Legalizing drugs is the ONLY way to put these people out of business. [Third person] Bull manure, the only reason that scum like this sell drugs is that it makes them a lot of money! If legalizing drugs is the ONLY way to put these people out of business, how do you explain the existance of organized crime in Nevada and Atlantic City. After all, those people are supposed to leave when gambling is legalized, at least according to your logic. Not on your life. Show me one incident where scum didn't *increase* when vices were legalized. The existense of scum is one reason why harmful drugs should NOT be legalized. All right, Larry. Do you remember Prohibition? Remember how they made the "vice" of drinking illegal, and directly created the worst period of gangster activity in the country's history? Remember all the lives that were lost or ruined during that time, all because people were forced to deal with criminals to get the product, and because the product available to them was made in illegal and unsafe conditions. After Prohibition was lifted, this situation of violence and poison vanished, thus providing a clear example of that thing which you assert never happened. I hope the meaning of this is clear to you, although you show every evidence of being proud of your closed mind on the subject. When one makes a thing illegal, one hands control of it to criminals. Is that too hard for you to see? Once the criminals are in control, then of course the business will be associated with the normal criminal methodology, as exemplified by the machine-gun tactics of Al Capone. The truth of this is so clearly attested to in this nation's recent history that I cannot understand your blindness to it. To put it as plainly as possible: If the government controlled the sale of other recreational drugs the way they control ethanol, the only legal over-the-counter intoxicant in this land, then the "scum" you are so concerned about would be immediately out of a job, no longer capable of preying on those who dealt with them, and with no more relevance to other drugs than they have to ethanol now. ___________ Tim Maroney duke!unc!tim (USENET) tim.unc@udel-relay (ARPA) The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill