Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site hou5g.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!floyd!vax135!ariel!hou5f!hou5g!jrt From: jrt@hou5g.UUCP (Jaime Tormos) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: Handguns Message-ID: <287@hou5g.UUCP> Date: Sat, 24-Sep-83 17:06:29 EDT Article-I.D.: hou5g.287 Posted: Sat Sep 24 17:06:29 1983 Date-Received: Mon, 26-Sep-83 23:10:58 EDT References: <658@hou5d.UUCP>, <1819@allegra.UUCP>, <1059@utcsstat.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Information Systems Laboratories, Holmdel, NJ Lines: 40 I have always been one for allowing people to own guns. It is not the gun that kills, but the person behind it. If someone is going to commit a crime of passion, I don't believe in most cases, that not having a gun will stop that someone from killing. I also believe that if only criminals have guns, then they will have a very large feeling of security when they walk into someones home, knowing that this law-abiding citizen that they are going to murder/rape/rob/victimize will not be able to defend himself against a gun. I also believe in keeping guns away from those that have shown themselves to be of a criminal nature..i.e. those with police records. I also VERY MUCH FAVOR extremely severe penalties for those that commit crimes with a gun. Penalties that can NOT be plea-bargained, nor dismissed by a lenient judge. I agree with laura, when she says that we are going to have to start being strict with criminals, or else we are going to have to pay with our own lives/ safety/security/peace of mind. We say that we don't want rapists/murderers/ and the like around, and yet we let them off on 'probation'. **) THROW THEM IN JAIL...AND THROW AWAY THE KEY !!!(** - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - **> NEW TOPIC <** I do NOT believe in capitol punishment. I do not believe that ANYONE has the right to take someone else's life, except for immediate self defense, when there is no other obvious recourse available. For those that commit a crime worthy of a capitol offense, lock them up, and then WELD THE DOOR!! Killing them is not going to bring back anyone. enough for now... **> NOTE: NEW ADDRESS (** FRODO **) alias hou5g!jrt Jaime R. Tormos HO 1J337, ATTIS HOLMDEL,NJ 07733 (201)834-3366 vax135!ariel!hou5f!hou5g!jrt