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From: kfk@ccieng2.UUCP
Newsgroups: net.flame
Subject: Reply to utastro!werner
Message-ID: <154@ccieng5.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 26-Sep-83 17:19:15 EDT
Article-I.D.: ccieng5.154
Posted: Mon Sep 26 17:19:15 1983
Date-Received: Thu, 29-Sep-83 10:19:41 EDT
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[ utastro!werner:
	you are damn lucky you did not get killed by a police-man.
	and you are able to tell the story with pride and don't seem
	to recognize how much your behavior worsened the whole affair.

	Scenario:  a neighbor sees you and gets his gun to "disarm"
		you.  Another calls the cops telling them about a
		bunch of "crazies" running around armed.  the police
		comes with reinforcements and the probability of
		someone ending up getting shot increases exponentially.
]

Damn lucky?  Why should I consider myself lucky?  The officer did what
he was trained to do.  I have no problem with that.

"... able to tell the story with pride"?   Umm, pride?  Pleasure, per-
haps, that the police acted in the manner which they did.  I hold no
pride in any part of the situation, from the time the woman walked into
my apartment until after the paramedics left.

"a neighbor sees you and gets his gun to 'disarm' you.  Another calls
the cops..."  Well, the basic problem here is that you don't know a
thing about my building:
	a. There are only 2 other apartments on the floor, and the
	   hallways have doors on them; no such thing as passers-by.
	b. One of the other 2 families was out of town for the weekend. 
	c. The other family was out for the night.
No one else was going to hear a thing on my own floor.  The neighbors
upstairs might have heard a fight, and so might have called the cops,
but nothing more was there to see.  After all, I don't think they were
going to come down and join the fight just for grins, do you?

"...the probability of someone...getting shot increases..."  Not exactly
likely, considering that there was no one else around.  More assumptions
based on zero evidence.

I don't get my firearms out unless (1) I'm cleaning them; (2) I'm head-
ing for the shooting range NOW; (3) I feel a need for self-protection
and it is safe to use a firearm within the context of that need.

============== Karl Kleinpaste ===============
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