Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site rabbit.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!floyd!clyde!ihnp4!houxm!mhuxi!eagle!allegra!alice!rabbit!jj From: jj@rabbit.UUCP Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: Re: Clar ... gun' -BAH HUMBUG! - (nf) Message-ID: <1996@rabbit.UUCP> Date: Thu, 29-Sep-83 11:37:18 EDT Article-I.D.: rabbit.1996 Posted: Thu Sep 29 11:37:18 1983 Date-Received: Sat, 1-Oct-83 19:12:19 EDT References: <3026@uiucdcs.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill Lines: 25 Scott Strikes again! I beg to differ with two statements he makes: 1) It's much more difficult to kill someone with a tire iron. Bullpucky! I don't even give this one an argument, it doesn't deserve it. A three year old child could kill Mean Joe Green with a tire iron in a sneak attack, and a 15 year old would probably succeed one on one, without surprise. 2) A gun in informed hands is just as dangerous. Quite ridiculous. It's already been disucussed on the net how a lot of "casual" gun users are stunned by the effect of a gun. Informed users of guns KNOW what they do, and are quite a bit less likely to use them unnecessarily. Ergo, guns are safer in informed hands. Lest you argue, look at your local police force, and consider what would happen if they weren't trained in the use of their weapons. There are a few more falsehoods in Scott's last note, but I leave you with these two. have a safe day.