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From: bwm@ccieng5.UUCP ( Morgoth	Lord of Darkness)
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Subject: Gun Control and the Guv
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Date: Thu, 29-Sep-83 07:54:15 EDT
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Posted: Thu Sep 29 07:54:15 1983
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Text of a letter recieved from Alan Driscoll:

+	There are no rights more important than insuring freedom. I don't care
+	what the majority feeling on this is - certainly the drafters of
+	the constitution would agree - read your history.
+	
+	Morgoth
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+  Isn't the right to life the most fundamental right of all?  Isn't it
+  in order to protect this right that we have gun control laws?
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+	Alan Driscoll
+	Bell Labs, Murray Hill

My response:

Alan, I am arguing the constitutional basis of freedom in the US. The US has
been perverted by continuing 'reinterpretation' of the constitution to allow
such things as gun control, because people who feel like you apparently do
push for it. Nonetheless, when the constitution was drafted, folks like Adams,
Jefferson, Franklin KNEW how perverted a democracy could get (and it is), and
purposly wrote things into the constitution that supposedly couldn't be
changed no matter HOW much of a majority wanted to. One of these rights was
freedom of speech. Another was the right to carry arms. Why? As Jefferson so
aptly put it - "The tree of Liberty must be watered from time to time with
the blood of patriots and tyrants". (Quote is from memory, so I apologize for
a possible slight miswording.) And let us not forget "Give me Liberty, or give
me death!" from a Mr. Tom Paine. Clearly these folks felt that some things were
MUCH more important than the right to life, i.e. the right to liberty. To make
human life alone paramount, puts all of us in concentration camps were the
'benevolent' government can take care of us and keep us alive and well. 

Sorry, but if that's the case - i'd rather die.

--Morgoth		seismo!rochester!ritcv!ccieng5!ccieng2!bwm

I'd also like to add that there are numerous books postulating all kinds of
societies that the US gets into as more and more people insist that the original
idea of personal freedom and a limited government is wrong. I'd be happy to
supply a short reading list (I taught a high school 'class' in futurology) to
anyone that is interested.