Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!eagle!mhuxi!houxm!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!uicsl!preece From: preece@uicsl.UUCP Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: why wouldn't criminals use their gun - (nf) Message-ID: <3067@uiucdcs.UUCP> Date: Fri, 30-Sep-83 23:48:43 EDT Article-I.D.: uiucdcs.3067 Posted: Fri Sep 30 23:48:43 1983 Date-Received: Mon, 3-Oct-83 06:08:07 EDT Lines: 32 #R:ccieng5:-15700:uicsl:4300085:000:1708 uicsl!preece Sep 30 10:16:00 1983 What's that? Say again? What brand of logic do you use here? "If only criminals had guns, they wouldn't use them?" Equally likely is, "If only criminals had guns, they would use them every chance they got, because no one else has one with which to defend himself, making victims easy targets for any kind of crime." Actually, I think both arguments are garbage. First, fear for one's safety is not the only reason criminals use guns. That kills Scott Preece's argument. Second, most criminals are not interested in any- thing more than one's possessions. That kills the second possibility. ---------- Mr. Kleinpaste has put his finger on the core of my argument in his response to his alternative position. Most criminals are not out to kill or injure people, they're out to make a living in their own peculiar way. Most criminals who carry guns do so simply to use them as a threat, to coerce cooperation from the victim. An armed robber who thinks you may have a gun is much more likely to over-react when you reach for your wallet than one who is sure you don't have a gun. The mugger who simply likes to hurt his victims will do so one way or the other. If you create a situation where the intended victim is perceived by the criminal as more likely to be armed, you increase the criminal's likely response to resistance or surprise and you increase the likelihood that he will attack from ambush with immediate use of force. That's counterproductive. And a gun carried under one's clothing or in one's purse is not really a very useful tool when the criminal confronts you unexpectedly, although it does make a nice present for the criminal... scott preece pur-ee!uiucdcs!uicsl!preece