Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site hou5d.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!floyd!vax135!ariel!hou5f!hou5e!hou5d!mat From: mat@hou5d.UUCP (M Terribile) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: Re: Clar ... gun' -BAH HUMBUG! - (nf) Message-ID: <685@hou5d.UUCP> Date: Tue, 4-Oct-83 11:15:49 EDT Article-I.D.: hou5d.685 Posted: Tue Oct 4 11:15:49 1983 Date-Received: Thu, 6-Oct-83 23:51:07 EDT References: <3026@uiucdcs.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Information Systems Laboratories, Holmdel, NJ Lines: 32 Scott Preese states that most mugginngs involve threats, not actual killing. This is rapidly changing in areas where mugging is common. The only reason the mugger keeps you alive is the fact that it is easier to get you to GIVE him your wallet than to dig it out of your pocket after you are dead. A few weeks ago, a kid was killed on Francis Lewis Boulevard near Hillside Avenue in Queens. He was killed by a couple of punks who wanted his radio (a ghetto blaster). I nwe his family in when I was in grade school. Even at this distance and after 12 years, it hits home. Is is true that you are more likely to be killed resisting that cooperating. On the other hand, if you increase the chances of killing the criminal, you decrease the chance that he will be able to commit the dozens of crimes a week that he otherwise might. We aren't talking about kids taking a car for a joyride -- we are talking about people who are willing, on a regular basis to threaten and take strangers' lives. Of course, the best solution lies in a well-staffed, properly trained and controlled police department, backed by a court system with the authority, the mandate, the commitment and the competence to insure that people who are caught violating the rights of others will be given strong incentive not to do it again, and will be prevented from doing it again by means appropriate to the severity of the crime if there is any doubt about ability to deter. If it is found that no other means will serve (ie if a lifer kill a prison guard) this means execution. If a person is given a ``second chance'' by a court system -- parole, time off for good behavior, and, HAVING ACCEPTED THIS FAVOR, he again kill or threatens to kill, he should be executed. My own beliefs on this subject go even farther, but I will leave the issue here. Mark Terribile Duke of deNet