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From: chrys@alberta
Newsgroups: net.followup,net.games,net.games.rogue
Subject: Games on multi-user systems.
Message-ID: <450@alberta.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 8-Sep-83 17:31:13 EDT
Article-I.D.: alberta.450
Posted: Thu Sep  8 17:31:13 1983
Date-Received: Fri, 9-Sep-83 19:36:58 EDT
Organization: U. of Alberta, Edmonton, AB, Canada
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I include here an article that I felt I should make comment on:

	"On our system here 4.1bsd VAX11/780 we obtained
	 version 5.2 rogue or what ever it was and found
	 we could not restart a game.  The local powers 
	 rather than cure this returned to version 3.6.  
	 This is because games received a justified low 
	 priority.  Since then games have be removed 
	 completely - sigh.

	 Richard Loken"

I just wanted to make two comments:

1) I feel games to be a great relief after a session of long concentration
   or to relax before getting down to work.  Hence, I feel games to be
   a necessary (?) part of a system (even research systems).

2) We cannot have games on systems if the users cannot be responsible for
   their actions to the degree that they
	a) don't get their work done or
	b) bother others (who are trying to get their work done) by
		  i) creating undo load on the system,
		 ii) making a lot of noise in common work areas, and/or
		iii) tying up needed resources (e.g. terminals) during
		     busy periods.

Our system has had a lot of the problems associated with point 2 above.
The systems people are valiantly attempting to create an 
"academic/research" environment on the system.  I just hope that the 
irresponsibilty of few won't cause loss of priviledges to all.  

My plea is that we (general user community) be VERY sensitive to what's
going on on our respective systems in order to avoid such penalties.  I
see that this is equally applicable to the entire USENET system, as well.

	Chris Helmers {sask,vax135,ubc-vision}!alberta!chrys