Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site omsvax Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!tektronix!ogcvax!omsvax!dps From: dps@omsvax.UUCP Newsgroups: net.followup Subject: Re: Handguns: we're succumbing to mob rule Message-ID: <650@omsvax> Date: Thu, 8-Sep-83 11:48:45 EDT Article-I.D.: omsvax.650 Posted: Thu Sep 8 11:48:45 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 9-Sep-83 20:06:25 EDT References: uiucdcs.2649, <1954@tekecs.UUCP>, <970@utcsstat.UUCP>, <687@druxu.UUCP> Organization: Intel Corp. - Hillsboro,OR Lines: 28 England has handgun control. London has fewer murders than any American city of comparable size or density. I don't have the figures to hand, but as I recall the difference is an order of magnitude. British authorities have no doubt that there is a relation. Also, some Canadian cities (perhaps the whole country) also have handgun control. The Canadian city/cities in the Great Lakes metropolitan area have fewer murders than the American cities. Could there be a relation? Most deaths from handguns are not caused by professional criminals, but by people with an emotional involvement with their victims. Having a handgun readily available makes crimes of passion easy. In dealing with a housebreaker, a home owner with a gun has a choice: 1) He can challenge the housebreaker, giving the hb'er time to fire his own gun, or 2) He can shoot first and ask question later. If he chooses 2), he should have a lawyer noted for proving "that it was in self defense" -- hard to argue when the hb'er didn't even see the shooter. I, for one, would feel a lot safer if the only handguns around were in the hands of professional criminals. I figure the chances of not getting shot would improve by several orders of magnitude. I also don't believe that political freedom and democracy require handguns. After all, the Athenians didn't have handguns.