Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!henry From: henry@utzoo.UUCP (Henry Spencer) Newsgroups: net.followup Subject: Re: Handguns: we're succumbing to mob ru - (nf) Message-ID: <3203@utzoo.UUCP> Date: Sun, 18-Sep-83 00:12:34 EDT Article-I.D.: utzoo.3203 Posted: Sun Sep 18 00:12:34 1983 Date-Received: Sun, 18-Sep-83 00:12:34 EDT References: <316@inmet.UUCP>, <614@utastro.UUCP> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 28 England has handgun control. London has fewer murders than any American city of comparable size or density. I don't have the figures to hand, but as I recall the difference is an order of magnitude. British authorities have no doubt that there is a relation. Also, some Canadian cities (perhaps the whole country) also have handgun control. The Canadian city/cities in the Great Lakes metropolitan area have fewer murders than the American cities. Could there be a relation? Canada has quite strict handgun-control laws, and Canadian cities generally do have lower murder rates than nearby American cities. But don't forget two things: 1. Canadian cities have lower rates for *all kinds* of crime -- not just handgun-related crimes -- than nearby American cities. 2. Many large American *cities* (e.g. Detroit) have quite severe handgun- control laws. These have the predictable effect, to wit making life difficult for honest collectors, target shooters, etc. while having no noticeable effect on criminals. It just ain't that simple, folks. -- Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology {allegra,ihnp4,linus,decvax}!utzoo!henry