Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site utastro.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!seismo!hao!kpno!ut-sally!utastro!bill From: bill@utastro.UUCP Newsgroups: net.followup Subject: Re: Handguns: we're succumbing to mob ru - (nf) Message-ID: <646@utastro.UUCP> Date: Tue, 20-Sep-83 11:34:33 EDT Article-I.D.: utastro.646 Posted: Tue Sep 20 11:34:33 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 23-Sep-83 05:38:41 EDT References: <614@utastro.UUCP>, <1082@utcsstat.UUCP> Organization: UTexas Astronomy Dept., Austin, Texas Lines: 48 ideal for taking into banks, 7-11's etc., whose money you would like to appropriate; rifles are not. (3) Most crimes committed in the United States which involve firearms, involve handguns, not rifles. (4) The Swiss don't sling their rifles over their shoulders every time they leave the house (I think Nat's phrase "armed to the teeth" is mighty florid), so they are not usually in a position as citizens to intervene with their weapons to "reduce the rate of violent crime". (5) I believe that the reason the Swiss crime rate is so low is mainly sociological -- they are a small, homogeneous nation with history and traditions very different from those in the U. S.; therefore I do not think their experience is likely to be as relevant to the situation here as is Canada's. After all, Nat was responding to someone who pointed out that Canada, where handguns are uniformly much more difficult to obtain than in the U. S., has a significantly lower rate of gun-related crime. To the extent that this observation is true, and to the extent that Canada's experience has been more similar to that of the United States than has Switzerland's, I find the Canadian situation more relevant to the U.S. than that of Switzerland. Bill Jefferys 8-% Astronomy Dept, University of Texas, Austin TX 78712 (Snail) ihnp4!kpno!utastro!bill (uucp) utastro!bill@utexas-11 (ARPA)