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From: tim@unc.UUCP (Tim Maroney)
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Subject: Re: An interesting problem...
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Date: Tue, 4-Oct-83 16:07:39 EDT
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Posted: Tue Oct  4 16:07:39 1983
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Look, Brad, I never suggested that the wishes be used AGAINST Orcus.  They
are there purely for escape purposes in case bargaining fails.  This is one
of the "easy" uses of a Wish (look at the spell description in the Player's
Handbook), and could be expected to work under any circumstances.

The Iron Flask was suggested by me in my earlier article, but for Christ's
sake don't have anything stuck in it!  Use it to trap Orcus!!!!  And what is
this "get some Iron Flasks" bull?  That's like saying "get a few Machines of
Lum the Mad" or "take a few Swords of Kas".  There is only ONE Iron Flask --
it is an artifact.

I stick with my previous assertion that the task of killing Orcus on his
home plane is impossible for the party as given, regardless of equipment.
You cannot kill him in your surprise segment, and after that he uses his
teleport at will to go back to his castle.  It is then child's play for his
servant liches to locate and annihilate you.  (Cast Temporal Stasis, then
teleport into a location within reach of you, is one good start.  Another
truly spiffy approach is the offensive use of Vanish, to bring your atoms
and those of a rock into intimate contact, but the DM might disallow this in
the Abyss.)  Regardless of specifics, any DM who cannot trash you in this
situation should not be running adventures that are this high-level.

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