Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!duke!unc!tim From: tim@unc.UUCP (Tim Maroney) Newsgroups: net.games.frp Subject: Re: Kill Orcus with mirror of opposition Message-ID: <5970@unc.UUCP> Date: Tue, 4-Oct-83 16:44:14 EDT Article-I.D.: unc.5970 Posted: Tue Oct 4 16:44:14 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 7-Oct-83 02:33:54 EDT References: watmath.5877 Lines: 26 If a Mirror Of Opposition creates an opposite for anything reflected in it, it is not a valuable item for combat. Yes, you create a duplicate, which steps out of the Mirror, is reflected in it, and so on. It would be a real mess after a round or three unless the Mirror got nuked. With four Mirrors, it would be even worse. There is no doubt that the chaotic evil Orcus or a copy thereof would be the winner, since he (they) are on his (their) home plane and the others are not. I have some real hesitation about even allowing the Mirror to apply to Orcus, or any other demon, devil, deva, etc. If my high-level chaotic good magic-user gets duplicated by a Mirror, what comes out is a real, possible being, a high-level lawful evil magic-user. When a demon gets duplicated, you wind up with a lawful good being. There is no such thing as a good demon, so would the result have the demon powers? I don't think so. An angel or cognate being might appear instead, but then the home plane advantage is gone. In any case, no magic item is potent enough to create a new god, or a new artifact (remember the Wand!). Once again -- if you think the fight with Orcus is winnable, you have not played it while I was DMing. No one beats a well-played lich, and Orcus has scads of liches serving him. Tiamat is another story.... _________________________ Tim Maroney duke!unc!tim (USENET) tim.unc@udel-relay (ARPA)