Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!cca!ima!ism780!jim From: jim@ism780.UUCP (Jim Balter) Newsgroups: net.math Subject: Re(2): surprize quiz Message-ID: <32@ism780.UUCP> Date: Sun, 11-Sep-83 10:13:00 EDT Article-I.D.: ism780.32 Posted: Sun Sep 11 10:13:00 1983 Date-Received: Mon, 12-Sep-83 01:06:35 EDT Lines: 28 re: I am going to give a quiz, subject to two conditions: 1) It will be given during class one day this term. 2) At no time prior to the quiz will it be possible to infer from these conditions that the quiz will be given on a certain day. I say that the paradox is now genuine. That is, it is impossible for the teacher to fulfill these conditions. --- Sorry, but no. If the teacher gives the test on the first day, (1) is certainly true, and on what basis could anyone have inferred that the test would have been given on that day? If the test is given on the last day, you can infer that, so the test cannot be given on the last day *if* the above conditions are satisfied. But if the test has not been given prior to the next to last day, you can infer that *either* the test will be given on the next to last day *or* the conditions will be violated. You cannot infer either alone. So, the test can be given on the next to last day (or any previous) without violating the conditions. The problem is that the student is treating the inviolatability of the conditions as an axiom in his induction, which isn't valid because such an axiom can only be part of the metalanguage, and so is not available to the student's logical calculus. --------