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From: bryan@ihuxm.UUCP
Newsgroups: net.micro
Subject: Re:Why by Apple
Message-ID: <557@ihuxm.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 16-Sep-83 15:58:50 EDT
Article-I.D.: ihuxm.557
Posted: Fri Sep 16 15:58:50 1983
Date-Received: Sat, 17-Sep-83 22:32:25 EDT
Organization: BTL Naperville, Il.
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Pascal is not an O.S. it is a language. The fact that it "Auto-boots"
does not mean it is an OS or a DOS. The Apple does not have an OS 
like the Atari.  The Atari has a real OS plus a DOS. The size of the
Atari OS is 10k on the old computers and 14k on the new.  On the Atari,
DOS or AUTORUN.SYS  is booted in if the OS "finds" a Disk drive 
during a cold start. As for the syntax used to do i/o that is left up 
to the language. 

On the Atari all i/o is done through the OS CIO (Central Input Output).
On the apple it is not easy (using interger basic) to LIST out a program 
to a printer with out first doing an operation to allow it to happen.  
In Atari basic all that is required to LIST a program to a printer is 
LIST "P:" or, to list to disk drive LIST "Dn:file" were n is the disk 
drive you want to list to. On the apple you half to turn off the output 
to the printer after you do a list. One must understand that the Apple and
Atari computersare not designed for the same market. The Apple is a 
computer for the person who wished to build all or part of his computer 
system while the Atari was designed for the general public. This has 
caused some to think that the Atari is not as expandable as the Apple 
and that the Apple forces you to buy or build lots of little boards 
to do anything. The Atari is a more software user friendly computer 
while the apple is more hardware user friendly.

The reason this is so is that the OS on the Atari has a bit more
smarts, in that it goes out and "finds" were all the hardware is,
while on the Apple you have to tell the computer were  all the 
hardware is.

					ihuxf!bryan
					Bryan DeLaney
					BTL Naperville IL
					
P.S I think the Apple and Atari are both good computers, but that
    the apple is a bit overpriced, if you buy everything instead of
    build it. While the Atari has been marketed as a "game machine"
    instead of a real computer, therfore there is a shortage of 
    third party hardware for the Atari. In the future you will see
    the new Ataris better marketed and more open to add hardware to
    while I am afraid that the Apple IIe will either half to drop 
    in price (40%) or drop out of the market, because of the IBM
    peanut and the Atari 1450xld computers invading  its market.