Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site akgua.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!decvax!harpo!floyd!clyde!akgua!glc From: glc@akgua.UUCP (g.l. cleveland ) Newsgroups: net.misc Subject: Re: Cousins taxonomy Message-ID: <336@akgua.UUCP> Date: Wed, 5-Oct-83 02:02:54 EDT Article-I.D.: akgua.336 Posted: Wed Oct 5 02:02:54 1983 Date-Received: Thu, 6-Oct-83 02:15:56 EDT Organization: Western Electric, Atlanta Lines: 65 John Opalko put out a call for HELP on the taxonomy (how's that for a 50-cent word!) of cousins. Herewith is my feeble effort at a response. ON THE TERMINOLOGY OF GENEALOGY Many times we hear the phrases "Second cousin, Third cousin once removed, First cousin twice removed, ..." and often wonder what is being communicated. Relationships between persons on different generational levels are defined by the "removed" terminology. If that phrase bothers you, be aware that it is really a shortened form of the true description, which is "{One|Two|Three|...} generations removed." So the term "Second cousins, twice removed" can be expanded to: "Second cousins, two generations removed (apart)" common parent | -------------------+-------------------- | | | | Q R <-----siblings-----> S T | | --+-- --+-- | | | | M N <---first cousins--> O P | | --+-- --+-- | | | | I J <--second cousins--> K L | | --+-- --+-- | | | | E F <---third cousins--> G H | | --+-- --+-- | | | | A B <--fourth cousins--> C D In the above chart, N and P are first cousins N and K are first cousins (once removed) N and H are first cousins (twice removed) N and D are first cousins (thrice removed) Of course, for very close relationships, there are special terms, such as Grandmother/Grandfather, Aunt/Uncle, Great-Aunt/Great-Uncle, An interesting aspect to all this has to do with the prohibition in some states against first cousins marrying. Many of these laws perhaps originated due to the precepts in the Old Testament. But there was probably a bit of cultural wisdom buried in the lawmaker's decisions. When you look back into the European history and note the many references to the disasterous progeny produced by the close inbreeding of the Nobility, and couple this with the years of livestock breeding which the agrarian society of the day had, you can easily understand the motives behind such laws. Cheers, Lindsay Lindsay Cleveland (...{ihnp4|mhux?|clyde}!akgua!glc) AT&T Western Electric/Bell Labs ... Atlanta, Ga (404) 447-3909 ... Cornet 583-3909