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From: keith@rlgvax.UUCP (keith)
Newsgroups: net.news
Subject: Reducing net abuse.
Message-ID: <1170@rlgvax.UUCP>
Date: Sun, 18-Sep-83 14:37:38 EDT
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Posted: Sun Sep 18 14:37:38 1983
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							18 Sep 83
	You people who are talking about lists of "authorised submitters"
give me a pain where a pill just won't reach it.

>>	The problem as I see it is how to keep the interesting newsgroups
>>	clutter free - I couldn't care less what goes into net.jokes,
>>	net.general etc.

Glad you decided what's important for me.  Oh, by the way, let's get rid
of net.bugs.2bsd, too.  After all, *you* have a VAX.

>>	An idea we came up with here was to have closed submission newsgroups.
>>	The point being that only certain people can submit to the groups,
>>	the list of people being decided by some 'editorial board' for that
>>	group. In a way it would work like a magazine except that once you had
>>	been accepted by the 'editorial board' you could submit what you
>>	wanted. Presumably if you started submitting junk the board you remove
>>	you from the list.
...
>>	(You don't have to read a newsgroup if you decide that you don't
>>	approve of the editorial board).

No, fool, it's not "just like a magazine."  USENET is a monopoly.  The board
would be a dictatorship.  What do you want people who disagree with the
board's policies to do, go out and start their own net?

I don't even *believe* this crap.  What you are advocating is a closed
mail group.  Okay, so have a closed mail group.  Why bother to put it on
the net?  So I can marvel at the beauty and purity of your technical
competence?  To give me a taste of what I can aspire to?  To inform me
of your decisions on the future of computer science?  The idea of a
public forum (like USENET *used* to be) is to allow EVERYONE to speak up
on any issue.  That way you benefit from my ideas.  Of course, I forgot,
you know it all, right?  Well, I just want you to know how grateful I am
that you're willing to let me learn at your feet, so to speak.

You want to create net.real.unix-wiz, go ahead.  I'm all for it, being as
tired as you are of the discussions on "rm ABC*" etc. etc.  Figure out some
reasonable way of making sure that *every* net person has read the netiquette
document and make sure that net people realize that that group is moderated
by someone who has the power to edit/request editing, point out the obvious
unsuitability of the article, whatever.  But don't you *dare* set up your
own little kingdom where you have the absolute right to allow or disallow
submissions.

		SNARL!!!!
		Keith
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