Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ut-sally.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!seismo!hao!kpno!ut-sally!jsq From: jsq@ut-sally.UUCP Newsgroups: net.news.group Subject: Re: net.gay Message-ID: <294@ut-sally.UUCP> Date: Wed, 21-Sep-83 12:20:27 EDT Article-I.D.: ut-sally.294 Posted: Wed Sep 21 12:20:27 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 23-Sep-83 09:08:39 EDT References: <135@denelcor.UUCP>, <18656@wivax.UUCP>, <1050@utcsstat.UUCP> <315@cbosgd.UUCP> <286@ut-sally.UUCP> <1976@floyd.UUCP> Organization: U. Texas CS Dept., Austin, Texas Lines: 34 Replying to Andy Tannenbaum: Yes, I saw yours and others' objections to net.women.only (notice the parenthetical comment in my previous article), but that group did not get nearly as much reaction, nor by as many people with traditionally strong influence on what path USENET takes. I'm aware of the political clout problem in having net.gay around for managerial types to see. There already are sites that don't accept net.suicide, net.jokes, et al. If they find net.gay so offensive, why don't they just unsubscribe to that? Why should the rest of us censor ourselves because some sites may have problems? I realize backbone hosts not carrying a particular group could inconvenience sites downstream from them, but I wonder how serious that problem would be. You're right that this site at least has relatively little trouble with management, and I wouldn't expect that particular newsgroup to cause problems here (Austin having possibly the largest gay population of any city between the coasts could have something to do with it). What I have gotten complaints about is the huge amount of non-technical flames passing for news. Net.gay would simply be lumped among that, here. If the name is what you're really worried about (remember there has been a lot of discussion about homosexual topics in net.singles lately), why not just call it net.motss as somebody proposed? That would likely solve the problem of some news medium somewhere noticing the existance of a net.gays even if many sites didn't accept it. You could always explain it as some netter's attempt to spell motorcycles.... -- John Quarterman, CS Dept., University of Texas, Austin, Texas {ihnp4,kpno,ut-ngp}!ut-sally!jsq, jsq@ut-sally.{ARPA,UUCP}