Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site dciem.UUCP Path: utzoo!dciem!ntt From: ntt@dciem.UUCP (Mark Brader) Newsgroups: net.misc,net.nlang Subject: Re: Changing meaning of term "hacker" Message-ID: <374@dciem.UUCP> Date: Wed, 14-Sep-83 10:48:24 EDT Article-I.D.: dciem.374 Posted: Wed Sep 14 10:48:24 1983 Date-Received: Wed, 14-Sep-83 15:46:37 EDT References: <2084@tekecs.UUCP> Organization: NTT Systems Inc., Toronto, Canada Lines: 18 David Levine complains about the use of "hacker" to refer to computer break-in artists. This usage was repeated in Newsweek's cover story on the topic a couple of weeks ago, and the fact that I'm usually a rabid Newsweek fan just makes it seem all the worse to me. Incidentally, at the University of Waterloo, the term was "hack", not "hacker". One spoke of "UNIX hacks", "TSS hacks", and so on (naturally the sets intersected). This made sense to me because there are other professions where one speaks of "hacks", being people who are too immersed in the profession to have a, um, fully rounded world view. (For instance, politics and business.) Are there other places where there are "hacks" instead of "hackers"? Are there places where both terms are used? Followups to this paragraph to net.nlang only, not net.misc, please. Or mail to me, as appropriate. Mark Brader, NTT Systems Inc., Toronto, Canada decvax!utzoo!dciem!ntt