Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site ariel.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!floyd!vax135!ariel!norm From: norm@ariel.UUCP (N.ANDREWS) Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Re: From Paul Torek #10 -- the second argument, approach #1 Message-ID: <471@ariel.UUCP> Date: Thu, 29-Sep-83 11:47:32 EDT Article-I.D.: ariel.471 Posted: Thu Sep 29 11:47:32 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 30-Sep-83 23:03:05 EDT References: <1116@utcsstat.UUCP> Organization: AT&T-ISL, Holmdel, NJ Lines: 9 Re Ann and Bob's supposedly contradictory views: Neither of them really says "My welfare is most important". What they really say is "My welfare is most important TO ME", and there is no contradiction in that. They both can say that, and can both be correct. Don't fall into Torek's fallacy of using standards of importance that are "intrinsic" or that are outside of the individual frames of reference of Ann and Bob. There is nothing non-objective in refering values to the standard of an individual living beings personal welfare... --Norm Andrews, AT&T Information Systems, Holmdel, New Jersey