Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 (Tek) 9/26/83; site tektronix.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!tektronix!patcl From: patcl@tektronix.UUCP (Pat Clancy) Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: big bang vs. speed of light Message-ID: <1427@tektronix.UUCP> Date: Tue, 4-Oct-83 04:03:05 EDT Article-I.D.: tektroni.1427 Posted: Tue Oct 4 04:03:05 1983 Date-Received: Thu, 6-Oct-83 21:12:15 EDT Organization: Tektronix, Beaverton OR Lines: 34 In an article in the Oct. Scientific American ("The Large-Scale Structure of the Universe"), the authors make the statement that "In the early stages of expansion the galaxies recede from each other at an apparent velocity that exceeds the speed of light" (p. 75). This brings up a problem which I have wondered about occasionally, concerning the execution of the big bang: if we start with a "singular point of infinite density" (same article), which expands as both matter and radiation, then the radiation should "outrun" the matter, so that at any time after time 0, any observer should see radiation originating at any point within the radius of the expansion. That is, if particles A and B started at the same spatial location at time 0, then at time t > 0, A and B will be separated by a distance d, which must be less than the distance light can travel in time t. Therefore, the "event horizon" at any point should include all other matter originating in the big bang. Now, I realize there must be an error in this logic, so where is it? I suspect it has something to do with the curvature of space, perhaps in making the transition from a state of "infinite" to finite curvature (ie., the transition out of time 0). In the same vein, the SA article states that "a massive neutrino cannot continue indefinitely moving at the speed of light" (p. 80). How can a particle with mass move at the speed of light for any length of time? Is it possible to move at light speed and have some mass other than zero or infinite? Pat Clancy Tektronix