Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!yale-com!leichter From: leichter@yale-com.UUCP (Jerry Leichter) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Israel & the PLO: replies to various people Message-ID: <2115@yale-com.UUCP> Date: Mon, 3-Oct-83 20:36:27 EDT Article-I.D.: yale-com.2115 Posted: Mon Oct 3 20:36:27 1983 Date-Received: Tue, 4-Oct-83 02:44:48 EDT References: utcsrgv.2398 Lines: 29 Just a side note: The New York Times correspondent in Israel for a couple of years has been a reporter by the name of David Shipler. (He seems to have been replaced, and moved on; I haven't noticed his byline recently.) Like many American reporters, Shipler wrote quite noticably anti-Israeli, pro-Palestinian articles. (If you don't believe me, all you have to do is look them up and read them.) The reasons for this apparent bias have been discussed in many places, and I'm not going to go into the details here; but, to put the best light on the matter, the current view in American journalism is that one should take any government statement with many grains of salt, and be skeptical about any information you get that might be government -"inspired". Since Israeli society and government are open and democratic, while most Arab societies are closed dictatorships, this produces the paradoxical result that less is "believable" in Israel than in Arab states. Anyway... Shipler did a very impressive reporting job on what was to be found in the portions of Lebanon that Israel captured. It took up about two full Times pages. I remember being really astounded to see an article state such terrible things about the PLO and such good things about the Israeli troops. My first thought was that the Times had sent in a new reporter; but, no, there was Shipler's byline at the top. Finding and "objective" evaluation of what happened in Lebanon is difficult. Everyone approaches the situation with some biases. However, if you want to see how the reality "on the ground" affected one person's ideas, go to the library and start reading Shipler's stories, beginning perhaps a month or so before the invasion, and continuing through his big article on his travels through southern Lebanon. It might give you some facts to think about, instead of sitting there and attacking everything as "Israeli propaganda". -- Jerry decvax!yale-comix!leichter leichter@yale