Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site umcp-cs.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!seismo!rlgvax!cvl!umcp-cs!velu From: velu@umcp-cs.UUCP Newsgroups: net.followup,net.politics Subject: Re: Korean Jet Message-ID: <2444@umcp-cs.UUCP> Date: Tue, 6-Sep-83 14:32:50 EDT Article-I.D.: umcp-cs.2444 Posted: Tue Sep 6 14:32:50 1983 Date-Received: Wed, 7-Sep-83 06:04:40 EDT References: <2765@rochester.UUCP> druny.682, <1875@utah-cs.UUCP> Organization: Univ. of Maryland, Computer Science Dept. Lines: 64 Ok. Ok. I think that at this point in this confrontation we should all take one step back and review the situation. First of all: What happened? A Korean Air Lines 747 Jumbo Jet, flight 007 [what do you expect with a number like 007, right!] was downed by a MiG fighter over Soviet airspace using a Heat Seaking missle. The plain was downed early in the morning Local Time (at the site of the incident it was 0430 hours when the plane fell.). Why was the plain there? The plain was about 250 miles too far inside Soviet territory. It flew inside The USSR's airsapce, over area which is clearly marked as being off limits to all. (on charts - go to your library and look for your self) It was inside the USSR's airspace for 2 hours - count them - that translates into more than 1000 miles... Why didn't they ASK it to leave? They did. But it wouldn't respond. On the Tapes made by the Jap's intelligence crew, there is a CLEAR message stating "Friend or Foe". The KaL jet DID NOT rspond.... Ok. So what do I think? I think that the Soviets should not be totally blamed - They were (at the nearest 3 km) quite far from the 747. The MiG pilot could not see the markings... Any way - what does 90 ft. (the differrence between the 747 and the AMERICAN AF - RC135(?) - a 707) mean at 3 km? The soviets should have forced the plane down, maybe even shot it, BUt NOT with a HEAT SEEKING missle. After being in ENEMY airspace for 2 hours, they deserved whatevr they got.Hey - why were both of the planes that infringed been KaL? Why? Why? Why? Flame off. - Velu But I think that we should all chastise them very strongly. 260 some people are very valuable. No price can repay their families. Remember however - US and Israel get along quite well. This is not as bad as the Libyan plane getting shot down. At least the Libyan's were not flying over territory that was explicitly marked off limits. Right now its US 104 / USSR 270. Those figures should both be zero! Any number larger is inexcusable. -- Velu Sinha