Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site cvl.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!seismo!rlgvax!cvl!cas From: cas@cvl.UUCP (Cliff Shaffer) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Comment by brunix!rb to my article on socialism Message-ID: <611@cvl.UUCP> Date: Fri, 16-Sep-83 12:32:32 EDT Article-I.D.: cvl.611 Posted: Fri Sep 16 12:32:32 1983 Date-Received: Sat, 17-Sep-83 05:41:07 EDT References: <2252@utcsrgv.UUCP> Organization: U. of Md. Computer Vision Lab Lines: 33 Well, I would agree with Ronen that size of the group's population will affect the success of a socialist government for that group. For that matter, the size of the group's population is probably one of the greatest influences for the success of any government. Socialism I believe is extremely unwieldy for large countries. This is because the government needs to do more work and handle more data for each individual then a government not providing as many services. Take, for example, some form of National Health Insurance. Everyone pays in a certain (hopefully small) amount and those who need treatment get what they need. Clearly the more people in the system, the greater the amount of work and information involved. If your population is small (say 8 million as in Sweden) then it might be possible to administer a program of this scale. And I would be willing to admit that in this case the program is a good idea. I think this same program would fail when a government tried to apply it to 200 million people - no one really knows how to properly administer services on this scale. Just look at Social Security - a program needing less work per person than a national health plan. The more the government is involved in the day to day lives of its people, the fewer people it can effectivly administer to before getting sloppy and unfair. Perhaps as our technology and information processing abilities improve, we will learn to effectivly govern greater populations. However, this is not keeping pace with the population growth. I can't see any form of government doing a good job with the world population as it is today - I am not even convinced that there is any good form of government for as many as 100 million people packed into an area as small as the United States. With socialism the problems are magnified. Cliff Shaffer {seismo,mcnc,we13}!rlgvax!cvl!cas