Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!seismo!hao!hplabs!sri-unix!Caro.PA@PARC-MAXC.ARPA From: Caro.PA@PARC-MAXC.ARPA@sri-unix.UUCP Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Subject: Merit Survey Results Message-ID: <11908@sri-arpa.UUCP> Date: Wed, 21-Sep-83 13:47:59 EDT Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.11908 Posted: Wed Sep 21 13:47:59 1983 Date-Received: Mon, 26-Sep-83 07:57:33 EDT Lines: 177 The response to my "SF & F Novels of Literary Merit Survey" was UNDERwhelming. At first, I thought this was the result of (SF-LOVERS) reader apathy. But the comments included with several of the ballots that I received point to another reason. Many people were uncomfortable with, if not dead-set against, comparing SF & F to such works as MOBY DICK, THE TALE OF TWO CITIES, etc. The impression I got was that readers don't consider SF & F to be in the same "league." The only conclusion that I can draw from this is that Science Fiction and Fantasy writers, for the most part, are incapable of writing novels of lasting literary merit. Science Fiction and Fantasy will forever be neighboring tenements in the ghetto of literature. What I want to know is WHY IS THIS SO??!! Anyway, here are the few exceptions to the conclusion drawn above. There were some surprises. I would contest not a few of the entries. I was hard put to resist the temptation to do a little self-centered editing. Other entries caused me to slap my forehead and cry, "Now how could I have forgotten THAT ONE!?" There were some predictable entries, and some glaring omissions (which I corrected when submitting my own ballot.) I decided against ranking the list. There weren't enough votes to do a good job of that anyway. The list is presented alphabetically by author's last name. Further comments follow. The Results: Douglas Adams: The Hitchhiker's Guide, et. al. R. Adams: WATERSHIP DOWN Isaac Asimov: Foundation Trilogy Peter Beagle: A FINE AND PRIVATE PLACE THE LAST UNICORN G. Benford: TIMESCAPE Alfred Bester: THE DEMOLISHED MAN THE STARS MY DESTINATION James Blish: CITIES IN FLIGHT Ray Bradbury: FAHRENHEIT 451 The Martian Chronicles SOMETHING WICKED THIS WAY COMES John Brunner: STAND ON ZANZIBAR THE SHOCKWAVE RIDER David Bunch: MODERAN Anthony Burgess: A CLOCKWORK ORANGE C. J. Cherryh: PORT ETERNITY Faded Sun Triology Michael Chrichton: ANDROMEDA STRAIN Arthur C. Clarke: CHILDHOOD'S END THE CITY AND THE STARS/AGAINST THE FALL OF NIGHT THE SANDS OF MARS John Crowley: LITTLE, BIG Samuel Delaney: DHALGREN THE EINSTEIN INTERSECTION NOVA P. K. Dick: THE MAN IN THE HIGH CASTLE P. J. Farmer: THE DARK DESIGN W. A. Harbinson: GENESIS R. A. Heinlein: THE DOOR INTO SUMMER TIME ENOUGH FOR LOVE Frank Herbert: DUNE Herman Hesse: DAS GLASPERLENSPIEL Aldous Huxley: BRAVE NEW WORLD U. K. LeGuin: THE DISPOSSESSED The Earthsea Trilogy THE LATHE OF HEAVEN THE LEFT HAND OF DARKNESS Stanislaw Lem: THE FUTUROLOGICAL CONGRESS THE INVESTIGATION SOLARIS C.S. Lewis: The Space Trilogy Walter M. Miller Jr.: A CANTICLE FOR LEIBOWITZ Mervyn Peake: Titus Groan Trilogy (TITUS GROAN, GORMENGHAST only) Niven & Pournelle: THE MOTE IN GOD'S EYE George Orwell: 1984 Christopher Priest: FUGUE FOR A DARKENING ISLAND Ayn Rand: ATLAS SHRUGGED Mary Shelley: FRANKENSTEIN Robert Silverberg: BOOK OF SKULLS DYING INSIDE J. R. R. Tolkien THE LORD OF THE RINGS Kurt Vonnegut: SLAUGHTERHOUSE FIVE H. G. Wells: THE TIME MACHINE Gene Wolfe: Book of the New Sun (SHADOW OF THE TORTURER, etc.) Roger Zelazny LORD OF LIGHT ???: FAIL-SAFE -------- More Observations: THE LEFT HAND OF DARKNESS, and "Lord of the Rings" garnered the most votes, though that isn't saying much considering the small number of respondents. Some random comments ... ''When I think of literary excellence, I have to think in SF terms, not in mainstream terms.'' ''One problem with comparing SF to "mainstream" fiction is that SF lovers can read mainstream, but only a person familiar with SF and technology in general is going to make any headway with "Stand on Zanzibar."'' ''LotR is probably one of the greatest works of the 20th century, all around. .... Tolkien is merely a work of art.'' ''These are some candidates for literary merit in SF&F. I do NOT consider them to be in the same class as, for example, "Moby Dick". I just don't believe there are any works at that level. Sorry. Does this disqualify my ballot?'' *** Finally, though unsolicitated, I received a rather humorous Anti-Recommendation. In light of the fact that Gene Wolfe's "Book of the New Sun" got more votes than most, I think this comment is quite provocative ... ''Works of Utterly Negligible Literary Merit, that are also Rotten Science Fiction. The entire Opus (Can-Opus?) that Doris Lessing seems Hell-bent upon inflicting upon an undeserving world. The First, Second, ..AlephNullth Chronicles of TC ... The Saga of the Pliocene Exile, The Finger of the Fornicator, Sai-Dan, Blech the Barbarian, and everything else fabricated by hacks who propose to sell heroic fantasy by the yard.'' **** Perry