Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!seismo!hao!csu-cs!denelcor!rob From: rob@denelcor.UUCP Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Summary: Meeting MOTSS. Message-ID: <133@denelcor.UUCP> Date: Wed, 7-Sep-83 21:13:37 EDT Article-I.D.: denelcor.133 Posted: Wed Sep 7 21:13:37 1983 Date-Received: Thu, 8-Sep-83 12:13:34 EDT Lines: 42 After the number of responses to my inquiry, a summary seems superfluous - the responses I received by mail were generally of an ilk with those posted to the net. Most people would feel uncomfortable more than anything (flattered, perhaps, but more likely just uncomfortable) when approached by someone of the same sex, though their predicted reaction would be to try to decline politely. Many sounded apologetic for not being able to treat such an incident casually. All in all, the concensus was "I might not like it too much, but you have the same right as anyone else." I was amazed at how temperate, even encouraging, the responses were - even the most homophobic responses refrained from personal attacks. Yes, people did try to point out the error of my ways, but most religious objectors just said that they had a "problem" with it because of their beliefs. (A propos of this, see the article in net.books on "Christianity, Social Tolerance and Homosexuality") In fact, I would like to apologize to those people who voiced their (contrary) opinions on the net, only to have people jump on them. In a way, I think I didn't hear more on the negative side because people were afraid of being lanced. A good sign, I guess, but I dislike anything that sounds like censorship. The questions prompted a discussion on the "rightness" and "naturalness" of homosexuality, and its probable origin. Although I was glad to see some of the facts about homosexuality aired, the discussion is moot. As several people have pointed out, not even scientists are willing to draw conclusions as to its origin, while its "naturalness" can no longer be questioned. All that is really known is that a person's sexual orientation is generally determined by the age of three, and that wherever there are people, there's a strong chance that 10 percent of them are homosexual. I also received mail from other gays on the net, asking if maybe we should start a net.gays. There seem to be two problems with this: first, who would post to it? Most of us still worry about coming out of the closet (which posting to net.gays would be tantamount to doing). Secondly, creating a net.gays would be stating that we are different or special. We aren't. It is better to keep discussions on "gay" lifestyles in net.singles or net.social, where they belong. I must also admit that I feel the visibility is important. Nevertheless, if other gays feel the net might be useful to them in some way, I will be happy to act as a clearing-house. My favorite response was "When someone asks me out to dinner, I assume that s/he's hungry!" Thanks to all who sent their replies! Robert Wahl {...csu-cs!denelcor!rob}