Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/26/83; site ihlts.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!eagle!mhuxi!houxm!ihnp4!ihlts!rjnoe From: rjnoe@ihlts.UUCP Newsgroups: net.startrek Subject: Re: Phaser that idiot! - (nf) Message-ID: <199@ihlts.UUCP> Date: Fri, 16-Sep-83 14:27:10 EDT Article-I.D.: ihlts.199 Posted: Fri Sep 16 14:27:10 1983 Date-Received: Sat, 17-Sep-83 20:40:00 EDT References: <2828@uiucdcs.UUCP> Organization: BTL Naperville, Il. Lines: 37 I totally disagree that "Someone should get reprimanded or booted from Starfleet" because of the events at the end of Star Trek II. Sure, it's the responsibility of Engineering to keep the ship's engines in operating condition, if possible. But no one is expected to commit suicide, not even to save a starship and all others aboard. This is extraordinary valor, which can never be expected of all people, if anyone at all. Certainly Spock was the only one who could have done it. McCoy warned Spock that humans cannot survive in the chamber. Spock, of course, reminded McCoy that he is not human. No, I don't believe any other ship ever before would have needed ultra-emergency (i.e. in minutes) repair in that part of the main reactor. That would imply severe damage to the ship (e.g. from phaser fire, like Enterprise's damages) from which starships would not ordinarily survive. You can't create a robot for every contingency since some are so improbable that they are not worthy of consideration. No one in Engineering goofed. I also don't think one can accuse McCoy and Scott of cowardice because they tried to keep Spock from dying. In the first place, I doubt that they knew the ship's tactical situation, not being bridge personnel. (By the way, Scott passed out earlier because of radiation exposure.) If it's hard to believe that they were in a military organization, it's because they weren't. Starfleet is not really a military organization. The Klingons are military. [Perhaps Star Trek IV will be about the Klingons firing photon torpedoes at civilian passenger space ships passing through the neutral zone which the Klingons themselves repeatedly violate intentionally.] >-| Kirk has stated MANY times (and we've seen adequate evidence of this) that Starfleet has peaceful intentions (military == war == !peace) and that their weapons are used for defensive purposes. The majority of times ship's weapons are used is to protect the Enterprise against NATURAL hazards (as opposed to living ones, sentient or not). I hereby grant a full and unconditional pardon for Mr. McDaniel for any and all flaming he may have committed in his previous article (as per your request). -- Roger Noe ...ihnp4!ihlts!rjnoe