Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!tektronix!ogcvax!omsvax!hplabs!sri-unix!SHAWN@mit-ml From: SHAWN%mit-ml@sri-unix.UUCP Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards Subject: Re: Unix philosophy Message-ID: <11824@sri-arpa.UUCP> Date: Mon, 19-Sep-83 14:23:00 EDT Article-I.D.: sri-arpa.11824 Posted: Mon Sep 19 14:23:00 1983 Date-Received: Fri, 23-Sep-83 22:50:39 EDT Lines: 41 From: Shawn F. McKay I know lots of people don't wan't to hear this; But here it is. "UNIX" (4.1BSD/V7/System xx), all should be compiled into one place, with all its winning features, and TOTALLY RE-WRITTEN, and called something else. Unix(tm) as I see it, is getting very hacked, and very old. It seems that every kernel I have seen so far, has more patches then I like to THINK about, never mind use as a system. Would unix not run a bit faster, look alot better, and be more portable, if some group out there, (keeping the 'Unix Philosophy' in mind), wen't along, and totally re-wrote it? And made it do as much as possable, (i.e. some from 4.1BSD, some from V7, and such), into a smaller sized kernel? Or at least, maybe it should be cleaned up? Clean the random hacks that are in it now, fix what bugs are known, (in a neat way), and comment it better. Unix never had to be 'well commented' before, but seeing how big, and somewhat hairy its grown, maybe its time? I also think, that there should be a 'unix' out there. Not the random stuff like 'unix'/'4.1BSD'/'xenix'/'venix'/'2.8BSD'/'V7', I think it might be a little better to have it something like: Pdp-11's: Unix Version x.x Vax-11's: Unix Version x.x Other: Unix Version x.x Mc68K's: Unix Version x.x I know, this is not easy, as 'everyone has a unix' now days, but its getting to the point where its hard to find a 'good' unix. as everyone has there own hacks, and some have others, (like stuff in /usr/sys/sys/syslocal.c, on 2.8 BSD systems), You never know what you are missing when you buy 4.1 over say V7. (Not that I can see you getting anything from V7 other then a 'good solid unix'). Well, enough said. Yours In Hacking(c), -Shawn (c)CopyRight 1983, All Rights Reserved,